Large Frame Backpacks: Kelty Super Tioga Part 3

PART 3 of 3:
An external frame pack will serve most backpackers needs. In fact its usually the best choice vs an internal frame pack despite what many biased salesman and outdoor magazines promote. Thanks to such disinformation, the frame pack is often thought of as a old-fashioned and outdated packing option and the shelves of todays outdoor stores reflect that misguided philosophy. Large frame packs, carrying around 5000 cubic inches, are hard to find and usually have to be ordered off the Internet, if you can find one. Thats too bad because the large frame pack is indeed problem solver for extended trips. Nutnfancys reference large frame backpack is the outstanding Kelty Super Tioga, proven on many an expedition into the high country. Sadly its been superceded by subsequent models (however Tiogas are still available under different nomenclatures) but a review of its features in this three part series could help perspective pack buyers to home in on similarly equipped frame packs. And a pack like this is usually necessary to accommodate large amounts of gear needed for 5 day plus trips (unless minimalist gear is carried). It has lots of advantages over an internal frame pack: lashing capability to frame for all kinds of gear, easier to pack, compartmentalization and pockets aid organization and proper weight distribution, pockets with with a flow-thru back will secure long items (like guns, fishing poles, paddles, saws, etc), excellent ventilation behind back, rigidity of frame provides easier off-back carry and prop up at campsite, bottom frame rung balances pack well during rest breaks (and protects sleeping bag), and its generally more comfortable under portage with heavy loads. The stated cubic capacity of a large frame pack, in the Super Tiogas case 4750 cubes, is actually misleadingits more. Thats because your tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad(s), and lashed gear do NOT take up internal packbag space like with an internal frame pack. And this Super Tioga, built strongly with the best materials, is like a tank in durability. Its not unusual for Kelty Tioga users to use their packs for decades and hand them down to the next generation. Thats a well-made pack. But its not perfect. For that durability you might carry some extra weight, translated from the aluminum frame, zippers, and heavy duty packcloth. The suspension system on this pack is outstanding: comfortable, adaptive, and rugged. Finally the track record, from Nutnfancys own use, is superb with excellent Kelty factory support which at one point came directly from its president (!). There are a lot of great brands out there and Kelty is just one of them. But Kelty has never abandoned the excellence of the frame pack in pursuit of trendiness because they know it just works and they know knowledgeable adventurers will always seek one out for lengthy adventures.

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25 Responses to “Large Frame Backpacks: Kelty Super Tioga Part 3”

  • DrReaper says:

    I picked up another …
    I picked up another one off Craigs list for my son. They are out there if you look.

  • smallbl0ck says:

    I found one on …
    I found one on Craigs List last week for 40 bucks!!! He bought it in 2002 and used it once for a 3 day trip…. near mint!!! Awesome review/ Huge fan…. U keep makin em and ill keep watchin em!!!!!

  • DrReaper says:

    I just got this …
    I just got this backpack off an internet auction. $100 with shipping and tax sounds like a pretty good deal. I guess now I should start the mods,
    Thanks for the review nutnfancy! I feel like I made an informed choice rather than just buying something. I did check out about 100 backpacks before buying this one. The only other option I was considering was $375 dollars and I just can’t get that to spend.

  • rab386 says:

    70lbs i hope that …
    70lbs i hope that is less than a 1/3 of your body weight.The best thing to do is make sure your not over weight with your pack. make sure your accounting for group gear too.
    Its hard to define a size for your pack for you if i don’t know where you are going and actives (I.E. hunting, fishing surveying, climbing) you have planed. that’s what i would recommend between a 3500-4000 c.i. external frame or a 4000-5000 c.i. internal frame for general multipurpose back packing.

  • whitenite007 says:

    Hey, so I’m …
    Hey, so I’m basically the definition of noob to the world of backpacking/hiking. I’m going with some friends of mine with a fairly large group on a hiking trip, for about a week. I doubt I’ll be taking even 70 pounds. Does anyone with any real knowledge think that a pack of this type and size is too big?

    Reply please anyone who has some good advice!

  • adamrosio08 says:

    so the super tioga …
    so the super tioga is like 4900 or 4800 ci. and the tioga 5500 is 5500 ci. and there the same price. Whats the biggest commercial pack you can buy thats quality?

  • ArmoredSheepdog says:

    I just saw this …
    I just saw this Mountainsmith Master myself, it appears to be an external frame pack made exclusively for the Dicks sporting goods chain, and is not listed in the Mountainsmith main inventory. I read your review anarky on Whiteblaze and I may go snag the Mountainsmith tommorrow now that I have done a little reading on it, thanks dude!

  • kyle87t says:

    Hey guys,

    I was …
    Hey guys,

    I was looking at External Frame packs and came across the Jansport Carson Tjq7 model. How does this look for a frame pack? Would it be good for extended hiking and all around great survival bag?

  • Ggreenvideos says:

    I’m sold!!!
    I’m sold!!!

  • Chromachronic says:

    I just got my Super …
    I just got my Super Tioga 4900 from Campmor for $150 shipping included. As of 4/27/09, they still have some. This model has a hydration port but lacks that odd access feature you pointed out. I loaded it up and it’s very comfortable. Thanks for the vids. I almost bought the Kelty Redwing 6650 and I still might, but for now the Tioga is a better fit to my needs.

  • GMperformance309 says:

    i have the tioga …
    i have the tioga 5500 and it is amazing. the only colors are blue and red. which suck. but the pack makes up for the colors. external frame packs need to get some hipe. they are really truley the best.

  • username2274317 says:

    at 11:04 thats kuz …
    at 11:04 thats kuz they worked then and still do lol
    what now dumb people

  • JahTambo151 says:

    Wish I had watched …
    Wish I had watched this video a few weeks ago before I went and bought my new pack. Might have to pick up an external frame pack. Thank you for using 2 sleeping pads, I’m going to use this as a reference for all of my friends who make fun of me for using more than one sleeping pad.

  • HelmerandRawlins says:

    Hahah I was doing …
    Hahah I was doing pushups while listening to this part of the review. I was nearing the end of the set, got through diamonds, wider, wider, wider and was on my “just 10 more” portion when you said 10:55 “a lot of people consider frame packs to be… gay”. hahah I laughed and I fell into the floor. You ruined my set!

  • OregonBackpacker says:

    dude you should …
    dude you should totally do a review on websites that sell frame packs

  • OregonBackpacker says:

    will all super …
    will all super tiogas be like this one nut’n

  • Sashainelegance says:

    you’re a trip man. …
    you’re a trip man. Thanks for the great advice.

  • anarky4321 says:

    hey nutnfancy …
    hey nutnfancy thanks for selling me on external packs; i got a Mountainsmith Master 3500cu external and am very happy with it, its amazing how much stuff goes into the pockets and straps outside you really dont need that much main compartment space, oh and it has like 6 huge pockets

  • solobackpacking says:

    my Lincoln was in …
    my Lincoln was in the garage every month for the first 8 months I owned it, after which I sold it off… would have been nice if the ceo wrote me a letter of apology.

  • 43j498sj1 says:

    Great video on …
    Great video on External Frame Packs all three. Video is sharp, and you explain everything in great detail.
    I found a site that sell Externals. Mountain Sport. Kelty Tioga 5000 Frame Pack for 130.00, great bag, great price.
    Keep up the good work….

  • EtherealStarz says:

    unused too!
    unused too!

  • EtherealStarz says:

    I just got this …
    I just got this backpack for $75 of craigslist :)

  • wanderingskeptic says:

    FYI-Campmore has …
    FYI-Campmore has the Kelty Tioga on sale right now. Looks just like the one in the video. Also have some others also on sale.

  • SgtThomy says:

    I’m using an US …
    I’m using an US Army Alice Pack, large and with a frame. For my purpose it fits quite good. Now, thanks to your videos I got tons of helpfull advices and ideas how to upgrade the pack ;)
    Thanks alot dude, you rock !!

  • yeppyea says:

    Excellent review as …
    Excellent review as always, keep ‘em rolling nutnfancy, all your videos rock.

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